I'm skeptical about cross-platform adaptation being adequate for demanding application. Thanks for all the other info though. Having a hard time justifying the expense of a second camera that expensive, but feeling lustfull. Nikon Z7 II was introduced to market in October 2020 and Sony A7R IV was launched in July 2019. All this helped to create an intollerable atmosphere were fanboys shout to each other instead making any wise/helfpful conversation respecting each other opinions. Raw video is an increasingly common feature, but don't expect it to be easy to exploit its full potential, or for there to be as much to gain as the switch to Raw gives for stills. @World TravellerSomething like the A9 is already to the next level. Will you still be interested?Already now we have: 24-70/4 Nikon is heavier then SONY Zeiss 24-70/4 and Sony has OSS but Nikon not.Let's discuss in a year, not earlier. The Fujifilm GF 45-100mm F4 R LM OIS WR is a medium zoom for the GFX system of medium-format digital cameras. I have heard others say the CIPA figure seems wrong, so I wouldn't read too much into that. I agree. Then the Sony A9 would be the best pick. I own a Sony and I think the Nikons look awesome. What did they announce? Today Nikon launched the D3500. I have a grip on my 7RM2 and that helps a LOT. Not even close. Z7 II with FTZ adapter at Amazon and at B&H. Here are some choices: The original 35 and 50 mm 1.8 fixed lenses are both very good quality; The 10-18 mm F 4 is really small, quite sharp and not overly distorted; The Zeiss 24 mm f1.8 is awesome. Arguably, DSLRs are on borrowed time. The Z6 is less expensive and has bigger pixels. There is 15 months difference between Z7 Mark II and A7R IV so we don't expect to see a huge technology difference between these two cameras but it would still give an advantage to younger Z7 Mark II, especially in sensor tech. Below is a summary of the […] i think whats important is which one is more reliable in terms of accomplishing different tasks. $1,698.00: Get the deal: Sony Alpha A7 III Mirrorless Digital Cam... Sony Alpha A7 III Mirrorless Digital Camera & FE 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS SEL2870 Lens Kit "Better" is a very subjective term in regard to cameras. It has a higher Overall Score and beats Nikon Z7 II in all criteria. A better question would be : Who put more eggs in the basquet while developing the camera, Nikon with the Z7 or Sony with the A7RIII? The Voigtlander Bessaflex TM truly could've been the go-to body for folks looking to put their dusty manual focus lenses to good use, no matter what their mount. DPR could get specific about using the various Scene Modes on the dial, and those Modes accessed by menus, and how to access the ones in the menu. Due to the lack of a mirror and pentaprism, the mirrorless camera can be a lot smaller and thinner. The point about "native lens offering" to be better at Sony is also questionable at best because we will see how good the FTZ-Adapter performs with tons of existing Nikon AF-S lenses. The Sony Alpha 1 is Sony's flagship mirrorless camera for, well, just about anything. The Nikon Z7 II and the Sony A7R IV both have an intervalometer built-in. I handled a Z 7 at a local camera shop, and compared it directly to the A7r3. :). And DPR's reviews are always rosy even when harsh critique is deserved. So it's nice that those people will have something. The new Canon R looks clumsy and cramped - it may be better in practice than it looks in pictures, but initial impressions are not good. In this section, we rank and compare Nikon Z7 II and Sony A7R IV for five different photography types in order to make your decision process easier in case you are specifically interested in one or more of these areas. It has better general image quality, more features, more compact body and offers more value for the money. They may possibly launch a larger. Disappointing. I'd say that Nikon Z6 was comparable with Sony a7iii, and about the same price. For very well-lit scenes, I'd bet the AF will be good enough though. That's right, as of now D lenses will be manual focus on the FTZ... :(. Hence the price. If there do not I feel Nikon can not take over this market. If they are the best? It pains me to say it, but Thom is not a reliable source on this matter.It really stretches credulity, that Nikon refused Sony's offer of the IMX251, then went away and designed the IMX309, which is almost identical, save having 3 million more pixels. You and I are very much on the same page. If we have a lot of legacy glass, it makes sense to look at a body which can use it. What does that mean, you are using it as a door-stop? There is a new song on YouTube called "Whining of the Sony Boys". Despite, I'm leaning toward NIkon. Under ideal conditions, mirrorless AF can be really good. I love to see Sony being crushed from Canon and Nikon Mirrorless cameras because these fanatical annoying fanboys deserve it. A7RIII is really close already and Sony decided for once to recycle its hold A7RII sensor. That's a game-changer for wedding/portrait photographers shooting a 135mm DC F2! Another similarity between these two cameras is that both Sony A7R IV and Nikon Z7 II sensors lack anti-alias (Low-Pass) filters. Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with dpreview much anymore. Not to put words in entoman's mouth or anything, but I use a Commlite smart adapter to put Nikon lenses on my 7RM2 and performance vs. native performance on a Nikon body is SEVERELY lacking. Guarantee Nikon will introduce a Z8 or Z9 with more DSLR-like ergos, and if they do, I'm all over it! When you check again and again and two very similarly positioned products consistently show a trend of one selling better than another, then it obviously means something. It's been almost three years since we launched DPReview TV. To me personally, there is a gargantuan readily-noticeable IQ improvement and ISO noise advantage that APS-C has over phones. Nikon Z50 gets Animal Detection AF, Z6 and Z7 get minor improvements via firmware updates, Nikon Z 24-200mm F4-6.3 VR sample gallery, Sony a1 added to studio test scene for stills and video, The top 10 most popular cameras of 2020 (according to our Instagram). It's clear that the Sony and Nikon "battle" will continue for a long time. dual memory slots3. Why not. Can you tell the images apart? Same Energy is developed to show you visually similar images with its results. Neither leapfrogging the other. It's not a killer feature IMHO. I no longer even want a DSLR handling-type experience if it means clunky sluggish live view, bulk, weight, size increases. You Sony fanboys are extremely funny. Canon is putting out 3 adapters for the R to accommodate legacy lenses. I need a cure for the Sony disease, lol. With a 50MP sensor, it gives you tons of resolution, but it also lets you fire off burst images at 30 fps for fast action sports. Tried my 200-500 Nikon lens and it worked flawlessly with adaptor. Both of the latter are big, heavy and very expensive pro models that will last forever, and will outperform the a9 in most departments. Plus expanding the system can get really expensive. Haha, it does say something about a $3,200 Sony that's got nearly equivalent ergos to a $500ish Nikon body, and I'd bet that the D3500's haptics are better than every Sony's to date. Canon's lens lineup was leaked and it looks better than Sony and Nikon. It's only been 2 years since the original Z7 model was launched, so you may be wondering … Oh the disgusting Nikon Rumors? Not hating, mind you. @S Yu Nikon just admitted they can't even make the cameras on time (as if anyone expected otherwise) so of course there is no way they are outselling anyone, especially Sony. Gear from yesteryear: What does a 40-year-old lens look like at 46 Megapixels? At last Nikon and SONY equal rivals so expect a price war down the road? Let's read on the following sections in order to better understand in detail how Nikon Z7 II and Sony A7R IV compares and hopefully end up with enough arguments to decide which one is better for you. This is a huge step back. Factors such as the optical elements, low pass filter, pixel size and sensor technology also affects the final resolution of the captured image. You can put together a great kit, very small, and very capable for a third the money of these full frames, and get very nearly the same performance. But, as closely as these cameras may appear on a spec sheet, there are some notable differences in addition to the similarities. The new E lenses (electromagnetic apertures) should not suffer from the same "spring-fighting" battery drain. I have Sony A9 and A7RIV, and I think Nikon do the Right Things with these Updates. You're living in a fantasy world hoping Sony does nothing after their current lineup. On the other hand, Sony A7R IV has a 61.0MP Full frame (35.8 x 23.8 mm ) sized BSI-CMOS sensor and features Bionz X processor. DPR did another high-resolution mirrorless camera round-up comparing the Canon EOS R5, Sony a7RIV, Nikon Z7 II, and Panasonic S1R. :D That ridiculous statement that i posed in question form is what one of the photographers in Nikon's "Photographers" teaser video said. Or is it only when tracking objects *across* the frame e.g. That has come with a price in that the body is so small that all buttons are close to each other. That would be great! Click through to see our picks. But the constant anti-Sony trolling is quite hilarious, I have to admit. Different functions per position, and granted, the Z's positioning is better. Z7 II body-only: $2,997 at Adorama, at Amazon, at B&H and at Crutchfield. The LA-FE1 makes it possible to use Sony’s latest AF technology, including Eye-AF, with Sony AF-I, AF-P and AF-S lenses. Canon will likely be the top seller though. It must be a lot of butt hurt for the Sony crowd that Nikon is already that close with it's first debut to outperform Sony. I'm leaning Fuji, but could go D5. The way I look at it is I've got pretty damn good cameras anyway (5DS & 5D4) plus a whole pile of superb L glass, so it's gonna take a pretty convincing argument to make me switch brands. Since both Nikon Z7 II and Sony A7R IV have the same Full frame sized sensor, their lenses for a similar focal length and aperture will be similar in size and weight. Nikon is like President Trump doesn't listen to anybody to me Nikon is just too arrogant Nikon CEO just doesn't want to listen, for example, I can bet that that Z6ii WILL NOT HAVE A MOVING AROUND SCREEN does any one like to take that bet? FtZ in mind, Nikon users will switch and adopt ealy (and adapt). 100% sure. The Nikon has the ability to focus stack, called focus shift, like the D850, but now has a monochrome preview jpeg to check your focus.. as well as an intervelometer. Each camera manufacturer can have customized sensors at Sony but the knowledge of these customized designs is intellectual property that belong to the individual camera manufacturer. FeDost - I fully appreciate the difficulties of communicating in a non-native language, my light-hearted retort was just a reaction to your equally light-hearted post. Also while integrated time-lapse integration is very nice in Nikon, it's not that you can't add an external intervalometer to Sony. When using F-mount E lenses on the FTZ, I'd expect a literally seamless native-performance experience with the same or very similar battery life. Its getting increasingly hard to do that against the top smartphones - smartphones made by two of the richest and most powerful companies in the world (Apple alone has revenue that is almost 100 times that of the entire consumer camera industry). Screen This tab shows the measurement values and graph derived directly from a RAW image when displayed on a computer screen at 100% magnification (i.e., one image pixel corresponding to one screen pixel). And I think a bigger format that can separate itself from smartphone quality more easily (low light is still the most obvious advantage bigger sensored cameras have) has a better chance of getting customers. The FT1 electromagnetically pushes the spring open to hold aperture open and that REALLY drained batteries very very quickly. left to right, where the AF is inferior? Sony lacks all of these features, and has no plans to return their apps store that had a garbage user interface but at least offered the possibiltiy for customization. If they are paying a photographer they expect him/her to have proper gear. Sorry to them for not ynderstanding the difference between cinematic film and any other kind of home video. I will not point finger at anyone, everybody is contributing to this general state of hate, but it has worsened in the last years, on every social media, about every topic. Play Memories Apps have been removed from Sony cameras since the introduction of the A7 III. Good point bladerunner6. DPReview TV: Sony a7 III vs. Canon EOS R vs. Nikon Z6 2020 rematch! Olympus will continue to do what they've always done - produce small lightweight cameras and lenses that feel comfortable to hold but are fiddly to operate. in the near future, the IQ it promises will swallow the competition. For real world use, I’ve grown quite fond of the Z7 viewfinder. Both Z7 Mark II and A7R IV have weather sealings in their body, making them resistant to water and dust. I know about the Mark 3's and a9's bigger size, etc. I for one would appreciate a LOT more objectivity and honesty from DPR in their reviews. Sony's subject tracking is among the best in mirrorless. The a7RIV features two card slots, while the Z7 only has one. Um, 600hp is necessary in a car. @pwillyNikon uses customized Sony sensor to according their needs and fabrication is done by Sony. Take a look at, say, the top 5 priorities we need in a camera and buy that one. Fujifilm's new XF 27mm F2.8 R WR is so nice, we decided to keep shooting with it and fill out our gallery with more samples. Nikon's firmware 3.0 update for the Z6 and Z7 includes AF improvements designed to replicate its class-leading 3D-tracking mode for DSLRs. @DPFranz -you say "if Sony is still using the current smaller mount" when that smaller mount is bigger than the N'kon "F" mount that so many photographers have been praising for years. Nikon and Sony are better specified and perform better, but I can't get on with horrible Sony ergonomics. To those of us who defected years ago, the Sony remains the better choice for its maturing lens selection, third generation features and improvements, etc. But nothing here is anything more than mere passing words. They just care about their wedding. Sony A9 is the next level in the regard. I wish all the fanboys would go to some other forum and measure stat sheets against one another and brag about their photo jewelry to one another so that actual photographers could have meaningful discussions here about the equipment that creates great photographs... Would you pay a professional wedding photographer to photograph your wedding with a camera with 1 sd card or a camera with 2? The Nikons look great. if sony have kept playmemories apps on camera that would be another huge advantage to Sony. There clearly times I would choose the Z7 over the D850, It might even replace my 850 should I stop shooting sports and auto racing and such. Sony A7R IV vs Sony A7R III. On the subject of battery life, the battery monitor was showing over 1000 shots with 32% left. Also, A7 have prioritized face tracking which can track "someone" among the crowd, which is very very useful. Although a lot of people only upload images to Instagram from their smartphones, the app is much more than just a mobile photography platform. We look at what the camera offers and who it might make sense for. LOL! Camera manufacturers and the websites/personalities that support them and earn their income from their products have no choice. The RX and a9 sensor are quite unique, not so much the a7rIII 42 MP sensor.

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